![]() ![]() Gun Barrel Ecologist wrote:I'm keen to see how you go with them on pigs Robert. But if there were no AR's then there would be no 300 BLK and I would happily use the. Even with the Lapua sub sonic 220 grain Scenar loads, the 300 BLK is more accurate. 308 and 300 BLK the 300 BLK is far more consistent with subsonic loads than the. Also I have Remington 700 rifles in both. The 7.62X39 cannot do that, the AK has to be set up for one or the other. The 300 BLK can be fired semi auto or full auto in either subsonic typically 220 SMK or supersonic typically 110-130 grain variety without changing gas port size or other components just insert new magazine loaded with your desired load and go. This is true, but there is another advantage to the 300 BLK you are not considering, again related to rifle design, but the 300 BLK is superior to the 7.62X39 for this reason. If a 7.62x39 would function in an AR then the 300BLK would never have been invented. This has more to do with designing a round to suit a rifle then designing a rifle to suit a round. You have the option then for more power.īut if you wanted a suppressed 30cal then why design something new when a 7.62x39 is about as perfect a case can be for a moderated 30cal and its already very well established. SPEEDY wrote:The 44mag is a good choice for a suppressed hunting rifle, using heavy 300gn + soft lead projectiles is a good choice, so is a short case that doesn't waste huge amounts space doing nothing.īut on the same token if your going to have a 308 cal that's suppressed then use a 308win and load it with a trail boss type load. ![]() Those wide petals also greatly reduce penetration. 458 diameter and massive blades deployed I think it has just about got to be effective as long as no more than 16" of penetration is required. I don't know that the lehigh defense bullets would be as effective as one of my broadheads, but that is why I am withholding judgement until I try them out on some wild boars. I consider that to be highly lethal, in fact, more lethal than 45-70's I've seen in action on bears. I have many video's of bears that I and fellow hunters shot with expanding broadheads, most of them are down within sight and within 8 seconds. They were looking for a wide temporary cavity which is only created by velocity. The Lehigh defense would act more like an expandable broadhead, cutting a massive hole through tissue. I was already expecting that result before they got to that part. The hard core is in the back half of the bullet which is what they drilled and then were disappointed when the modified bullet did not expand to a very large diameter. You would think they would understand that Nosler uses two different lead alloys for their front and rear cores in the Partition. They made a wide meplat hollowpoint out of a nosler partition by seating it base forward and drilling a wide hollow point. The paper really didn't address the real issues though and it shows that the authors don't really understand. But I agree, once you go subsonic much bigger is much better. 22 LR to expand so you should be able to do the same with a 30 caliber subsonic bullet. 45's are again getting attention.Īnyone here had a play with Lehigh bullets at subsonic velocities and willing to report on experiences? 30 cal you still cannot change the laws of physics. 300 Blackout and Lehigh and others investing in developing bullets that expand at lower velocity, and meet lead free requirements of certain states, but with the. 300 Whisper to be a headshot only proposition in terms of killing quickly with the 220g SMKs that were the go to projectile of the time.įast forward a decade and we have the. 458" bullets subsonic its always been in my mind to experiment with this however I havent been impressed with the way traditional bullets shot subsonic kill game - I found the. Given a certain Blaser cartridge was actually initially designed to shoot heavy. One of our more tacticool focused gunshops has begun importing these and I noticed recently that they are bringing in the 300 & 305g. ![]()
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